bill, thanks, glad you like it. also, i hope i have not gone jquery crazy yet, alutohgh i can totally see how that could happen. it's so easy to just plug into your code and make everything look flash-like spiffy. hey linhda, thanks! i've shown it to the skipper so it's up to him to pass along whatever info, photos, etc., he wants to use. everything up there is just a placeholder at the moment, to give an idea of what it could look like. except the sexy crew part, that's obviously a statement of fact. how's your site coming along?ps: can you believe keith urban has not refunded me my money!?